KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
może kogoś zainteresuje mój artykuł z 2003 r., traktujący o mitycznej historii Sławów - Scytów Regii, o których traktują utwory z albumu! Pisane współczesną łaciną dla tłuków z germańskiego forum starożytności:
The similarities between Old Slavonic and Indo-Iranian tongues are so great (they both belong to Satem IE group anyway), and the genetic markers shared, that there is no way these two ethnicities didn't come from the same source. In Proto-Indo-European society, the group which later became Indo-Iranian tribe, probably was a Warrior (and also 'Priest') Caste, thus having an elite status over 'peasant' caste, which later became Slavs. The elite caste kept itself quite pure racially in the homeland, thus its remnants in Southern Ukraine still show the original Corded features. But they also did not reproduce in large quantities, and kept dying in a legion of battles, that's why they were quickly outbred by the peasant caste. Being of a very aggressive militant nature, the Warrior Caste waged wars and expanded through the Asian Steppes as well as to the Western Europe, or rather Scandinavia, carrying with them the Indo-European culture and language. While the shiftless peasant caste was bound to soil and did not expand until forced to (eg. by Huns). That was also a big factor in outbreeding the Warrior Caste. Well, the conquered territories, where the Warrior Caste could establish new settlements (Iranian Plateau, Tarim Basin) or keep the subjugated advanced civilisation in line (Indus Valley), and maintain cultural level, became grounds for a growing ethnic independence, thus creating seperate IE ethnicities of the Indo-Iranian group - Persians, Medes, Aryans etc. Of course their racial purity gradually deterred, maybe not much, but in fact they were not suited to this kind of climate, and must've developed darker features just for surviving the sun (well, the Pontid component of their race had the proper genes for that, I'd say). Anyway, they too got outbred, but by completely alien races.
In Scandinavia though, the Warrior Caste encountered strong, hardened, albeit primitive UP folk, and had major difficulties imposing the IE tongue upon them, which explains the great difference of Germanic and Slavonic languages. In fact, the Germanic myths are obsessed with fear of 'Giants' (the IE Warrior Caste) from Jotunheim (geographically, this realm lied to S-E from Scandia - eastern Poland/Ukraine - home of IE), even though the Aesir are almost exclusively descendant from Giants. Anyway, the proto-Germanics profited from being conquered by the Warrior Caste, because the Warriors were not repulsed by the Germanic phenotype, and took Germanic women. When such a woman bore a child, she had to raise him practically fatherless, as the Warrior waged wars and impregnated other women . That's why the bastard was taught the Germanic speech, only slightly influenced by the original IE. The Warrior Caste was quite thin as a social stratum, and was also outbred, but their bastards, the Teutons, became a force to be reckoned with.
In the IE homeland, the last stand of the Warrior Caste was in the Land of the Dead (called Mordor by Celts, long-banished enemies of the Warriors), located in southern Poland, in Malopolska, with its centre on the Mountain of the World (Harawata in Indo-Aryan, (h)Alatyr in Old Slavonic, Gora Swiata in Polish, Baramund in some bastard languages), now called 'Lysa Gora' (The Bald Mountain) in the modern Saint Cross Mountains, near the city of Kielce. The Warriors who inhabited that grim realm are known to official history as the White Croats (identified as an 'Iranian' people - which definitely proves that they were the Warrior Caste). They were known under many names to the neighbouring Germanic and Celtic tribes. They ruled over a vast territory, inhabited by the Lugian Confederation (subjugated Celtic tribes, some aboriginal + Slavic settlements, all kept in line by Slavs. The word Lugies really means Ludzie - people in Polish). The Land of the White Croats was a ghastly place, as all foreigners were executed on sight. The secrets of the Land of the Dead were not meant for the outer world. The aeon-old Indo-European Warrior initiation rituals were performed inside the Mount World, and mighty human war machines were bred and trained for the war with Imperium Romanum, Huns and later Franks. These warriors were known as Kel'Tuzi, "Warriors of Kielce", and possessed ancient knowledge of waging battles against more numerous opponents (like Romans). These included battling under the cover of darkness, disguised as undead, and using special weapons - flamethrowers (using some sort of flammable substance made of oil and the thrower). These horrifying devices were responsible for calling this White Croatian army 'The Fiery Dragon' (still present in many myths, both Croatian, and Germanic - just watch '13th Warrior'), and the origin of the undead myths also comes from those fear-inspiring Warriors. They were renowned for drinking the blood of their vanquished enemies, so the vampyre myths were also born out of their deeds. Anyway, the christian Roman/Byzantine/Frankish conspiracy led to the White Croat demise, as the Slavic provincional overlords were bought out and converted to Christianity. The re-conquest of Balkans did not change a thing, but at least created a second homeland for the White Croats. The Temple of the Nine Circles on Mount World was destroyed by the Frankish invasion at the end of 8th century, and the shattered stones of this ancient building still cover fast spaces of the slopes, and are known as the 'Goloborza' (bald spaces). The future Polish king, Boleslav Chrobry, tried to revive the ancient Croatian glory, and after returning to heathenism in 1022, was soon crowned as the Khagan of the White Croatia. The christian chroniclers twisted that event, and the official history claims he was crowned as the (christian) king of Poland.
I doubt if you're still reading this, but this is how the obscure myths, legends, and non-European chroniclers show the real history of Indo-Europeans and their heroic Warrior Caste.
Based on information taken from <http://www.historiakurgany.republika.pl/> - the on-line publication of "Ksiega Popiolow" (Book of the Ashes).
The similarities between Old Slavonic and Indo-Iranian tongues are so great (they both belong to Satem IE group anyway), and the genetic markers shared, that there is no way these two ethnicities didn't come from the same source. In Proto-Indo-European society, the group which later became Indo-Iranian tribe, probably was a Warrior (and also 'Priest') Caste, thus having an elite status over 'peasant' caste, which later became Slavs. The elite caste kept itself quite pure racially in the homeland, thus its remnants in Southern Ukraine still show the original Corded features. But they also did not reproduce in large quantities, and kept dying in a legion of battles, that's why they were quickly outbred by the peasant caste. Being of a very aggressive militant nature, the Warrior Caste waged wars and expanded through the Asian Steppes as well as to the Western Europe, or rather Scandinavia, carrying with them the Indo-European culture and language. While the shiftless peasant caste was bound to soil and did not expand until forced to (eg. by Huns). That was also a big factor in outbreeding the Warrior Caste. Well, the conquered territories, where the Warrior Caste could establish new settlements (Iranian Plateau, Tarim Basin) or keep the subjugated advanced civilisation in line (Indus Valley), and maintain cultural level, became grounds for a growing ethnic independence, thus creating seperate IE ethnicities of the Indo-Iranian group - Persians, Medes, Aryans etc. Of course their racial purity gradually deterred, maybe not much, but in fact they were not suited to this kind of climate, and must've developed darker features just for surviving the sun (well, the Pontid component of their race had the proper genes for that, I'd say). Anyway, they too got outbred, but by completely alien races.
In Scandinavia though, the Warrior Caste encountered strong, hardened, albeit primitive UP folk, and had major difficulties imposing the IE tongue upon them, which explains the great difference of Germanic and Slavonic languages. In fact, the Germanic myths are obsessed with fear of 'Giants' (the IE Warrior Caste) from Jotunheim (geographically, this realm lied to S-E from Scandia - eastern Poland/Ukraine - home of IE), even though the Aesir are almost exclusively descendant from Giants. Anyway, the proto-Germanics profited from being conquered by the Warrior Caste, because the Warriors were not repulsed by the Germanic phenotype, and took Germanic women. When such a woman bore a child, she had to raise him practically fatherless, as the Warrior waged wars and impregnated other women . That's why the bastard was taught the Germanic speech, only slightly influenced by the original IE. The Warrior Caste was quite thin as a social stratum, and was also outbred, but their bastards, the Teutons, became a force to be reckoned with.
In the IE homeland, the last stand of the Warrior Caste was in the Land of the Dead (called Mordor by Celts, long-banished enemies of the Warriors), located in southern Poland, in Malopolska, with its centre on the Mountain of the World (Harawata in Indo-Aryan, (h)Alatyr in Old Slavonic, Gora Swiata in Polish, Baramund in some bastard languages), now called 'Lysa Gora' (The Bald Mountain) in the modern Saint Cross Mountains, near the city of Kielce. The Warriors who inhabited that grim realm are known to official history as the White Croats (identified as an 'Iranian' people - which definitely proves that they were the Warrior Caste). They were known under many names to the neighbouring Germanic and Celtic tribes. They ruled over a vast territory, inhabited by the Lugian Confederation (subjugated Celtic tribes, some aboriginal + Slavic settlements, all kept in line by Slavs. The word Lugies really means Ludzie - people in Polish). The Land of the White Croats was a ghastly place, as all foreigners were executed on sight. The secrets of the Land of the Dead were not meant for the outer world. The aeon-old Indo-European Warrior initiation rituals were performed inside the Mount World, and mighty human war machines were bred and trained for the war with Imperium Romanum, Huns and later Franks. These warriors were known as Kel'Tuzi, "Warriors of Kielce", and possessed ancient knowledge of waging battles against more numerous opponents (like Romans). These included battling under the cover of darkness, disguised as undead, and using special weapons - flamethrowers (using some sort of flammable substance made of oil and the thrower). These horrifying devices were responsible for calling this White Croatian army 'The Fiery Dragon' (still present in many myths, both Croatian, and Germanic - just watch '13th Warrior'), and the origin of the undead myths also comes from those fear-inspiring Warriors. They were renowned for drinking the blood of their vanquished enemies, so the vampyre myths were also born out of their deeds. Anyway, the christian Roman/Byzantine/Frankish conspiracy led to the White Croat demise, as the Slavic provincional overlords were bought out and converted to Christianity. The re-conquest of Balkans did not change a thing, but at least created a second homeland for the White Croats. The Temple of the Nine Circles on Mount World was destroyed by the Frankish invasion at the end of 8th century, and the shattered stones of this ancient building still cover fast spaces of the slopes, and are known as the 'Goloborza' (bald spaces). The future Polish king, Boleslav Chrobry, tried to revive the ancient Croatian glory, and after returning to heathenism in 1022, was soon crowned as the Khagan of the White Croatia. The christian chroniclers twisted that event, and the official history claims he was crowned as the (christian) king of Poland.
I doubt if you're still reading this, but this is how the obscure myths, legends, and non-European chroniclers show the real history of Indo-Europeans and their heroic Warrior Caste.
Based on information taken from <http://www.historiakurgany.republika.pl/> - the on-line publication of "Ksiega Popiolow" (Book of the Ashes).
tam nic nie ma, są tylko halucynacje z niedożywienia i śmierć cieplna
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
Ma ktoś zapisanego gifa, w którym Kel heilował, a który on sam wykorzystywał kiedyś w avatarze na pewnym forum? Kiedy moderator kazał mu to zmienić, dorobił animacją na której niszczył motylka...Kaszub pisze:Kucyk, pilnuj się. Świebodzin czyta to forum.white_pony pisze:
image tez ma nielichy.Nie wiem, co gorsze - dupny Jezus czy dupny Kel'Thuz.
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
Jeszcze chwila i Keltuz będzie miał hasło na Wikipedii. Cóż takie czasy.IRONMIL pisze: ALICE COOPER tworzy chyba już od 40 lat, a na masterfulu zasłużył sobie tylko na dwie strony komentarzy. Tak więc chłopie wszystko przed Tobą!
Od braci dla braci
Od dobrych dla dobrych
Kacapskiej kurwie
Zawsze chuj do mordy
Od dobrych dla dobrych
Kacapskiej kurwie
Zawsze chuj do mordy
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
na nonsensopedii juz ma o ile dobrze sie orientuje.
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
Bo nie wrzucił na forum linka do ostatniego albumuIRONMIL pisze:ALICE COOPER tworzy chyba już od 40 lat, a na masterfulu zasłużył sobie tylko na dwie strony komentarzy.

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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
Ponadto dyskwalifikuje go nieznajomość austriackiej szkoły ekonomicznej 

Od braci dla braci
Od dobrych dla dobrych
Kacapskiej kurwie
Zawsze chuj do mordy
Od dobrych dla dobrych
Kacapskiej kurwie
Zawsze chuj do mordy
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
No i nie miażdży parchów.
Only SŁUCHANIE płyt is real!
Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
to jakies heavy szanty sa czy inny chuj?troche monotonnie sie robi ale kto co lubi ,ja zupelnie nie czuje takiej muzy.cos tam slychac bathorego ale w szczatkowej ilosci.
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
chyba kurwa stefana bathorego.
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
oczywiście, że mawhite_pony pisze:na nonsensopedii juz ma o ile dobrze sie orientuje.
http://nonsensopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Warraha
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
hahaatr pisze:oczywiście, że mawhite_pony pisze:na nonsensopedii juz ma o ile dobrze sie orientuje.
http://nonsensopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Warraha

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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
czy ktorys z fanatykow lub sam kelthuzz moze mi wyjasnic czy tresci zawarte na tej stronie to sprawa powazna czy jaja?
http://www.kelthuz.ubf.pl/news.php
http://www.kelthuz.ubf.pl/news.php

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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
"Mściciel z Siedmiogrodu" , kawałek o nim z nadchodzącej płyty dopiero będzie.white_pony pisze:chyba kurwa stefana bathorego.
tam nic nie ma, są tylko halucynacje z niedożywienia i śmierć cieplna
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
ja bym bardzo pragnął usłyszeć w twoim wykonaniu jakis battle hymn o władysławie laskonogim.
i skoro mamy juz brutalny utwór "Chąśnik z Jomsborga" to jeszcze poprosze metalową adaptacye "w malinowym chruśniaku"
i skoro mamy juz brutalny utwór "Chąśnik z Jomsborga" to jeszcze poprosze metalową adaptacye "w malinowym chruśniaku"
do not make equal what is unequal
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
He,he,dokładnie.Riven pisze:Ze tez wam sie w ogole chce komentowac te bzdury
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
Jaki do cholery mściciel z Siedmiogrodu?????????????????KelThuz pisze:"Mściciel z Siedmiogrodu" , kawałek o nim z nadchodzącej płyty dopiero będzie.white_pony pisze:chyba kurwa stefana bathorego.



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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
Wiem o kogo chodzi tylko mam pytanie jaki z niego msciciel byl? Tylko prosze nie mowcie o wojnach z Moskwą.Karkasonne pisze:Istvan Bathory.
Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
To akurat nie wydaje mi się szczególnie trudne do udowodnienia, zwłaszcza pamiętając, skąd pochodził i w jakiej sytuacji były wówczas Węgry.
A sama płyta:
- nie ma takiej tragedii jak tu powszechnie się mówi, ale też drugi raz nie chce mi się kompletnie jej włączać
- zarzuty o klawisze nie do końca trafiony, bo pojawiają się w swojej przerytej przez Gumisie formie tylko na początku
- nie czaję grania epic metalu w zawrotnych tempach, kompletnie do mnie nie trafia wtedy żadna podniosłość, całość przez to strasznie nieprzejrzysta, każdy wierzy na słowo że spoko z was instrumentaliści ale przy dziesiątej zmianie tempa w ciągu minuty robi się to męczące - ja wiem że Brocas Helm też grali szybko, ale i tak wolniej to raz, a dwa że mieli dużo bardziej przejrzystą produkcję
- i tak to Wszebąd jakoś głupio skomentuje z szerokim wachlarzem odniesień rasowych i rodzinnych, więc nie wiem, po co to wrzuca tutaj skoro nie uznaje żadnej krytyki, chyba tylko dla hecy
- ten tekst o ludach trzymanych za chomąto mnie rozwalił
A sama płyta:
- nie ma takiej tragedii jak tu powszechnie się mówi, ale też drugi raz nie chce mi się kompletnie jej włączać
- zarzuty o klawisze nie do końca trafiony, bo pojawiają się w swojej przerytej przez Gumisie formie tylko na początku
- nie czaję grania epic metalu w zawrotnych tempach, kompletnie do mnie nie trafia wtedy żadna podniosłość, całość przez to strasznie nieprzejrzysta, każdy wierzy na słowo że spoko z was instrumentaliści ale przy dziesiątej zmianie tempa w ciągu minuty robi się to męczące - ja wiem że Brocas Helm też grali szybko, ale i tak wolniej to raz, a dwa że mieli dużo bardziej przejrzystą produkcję
- i tak to Wszebąd jakoś głupio skomentuje z szerokim wachlarzem odniesień rasowych i rodzinnych, więc nie wiem, po co to wrzuca tutaj skoro nie uznaje żadnej krytyki, chyba tylko dla hecy
- ten tekst o ludach trzymanych za chomąto mnie rozwalił
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Re: KELTHUZZAR - Triumf Żelaznego Ognia [2011]
Jakoś Węgier nie zjednoczył, a Turków i Habsburgów nie wygonił, okreśłibym go jako wytrawnego gracza politycznego i bardzo dobrego wojskowego, ale nie mściciela. Odnośnie do muzyki jak wy w ogóle jesteście w stanie przesłuchać całą płytę ?